How do you Jump? - Guild Wars Forums

alestian · Apr 28, 2005, 02:09 PM // 14:09

I have a really simple question. How do you make your character jump in Guild Wars? I found out how to walk, run, strafe, etc., but I can't find jump. That's all. Thanks!

AcidRock · Apr 28, 2005, 02:19 PM // 14:19

There is no Jump button
but there is actually an emote /jump
but i dont think you can use it to really jump on something... i dont even know what it is supposed to emote at all...

Rolande · Apr 28, 2005, 02:35 PM // 14:35

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Originally Posted by AcidRock

There is no Jump button
but there is actually an emote /jump
but i dont think you can use it to really jump on something... i dont even know what it is supposed to emote at all...

Yeah they didn't code in any vertical play (Z Axis) it is all horizontal meaning there is no way to "fall" or recieve falling damage. There are a few MMORPGs that have done this. Star Wars Galaxies did this and I can tell you from experience that it can become annoying. It is very easy to get stuck by something that is only a few inches high, sometimes developers get the physics wrong for a particular piece of the ground (I found one such area in the catacombs last night) and the only thing you can do is look for a way around it. It was the dumbest thing in SWG to not be able to "step up" onto a curb, or hop a low lying wall no higher than you shins and be forced to go completely around some cities just to find a way in.

Draken · Apr 28, 2005, 02:39 PM // 14:39

/jump its only an emote though

alestian · Apr 28, 2005, 02:50 PM // 14:50

Okay, it just feels unnatural to not be able to jump. It's like being able to walk and not run. It just feels weird. I wonder why they didn't put it in the game? Strange.

Rolande · Apr 28, 2005, 03:22 PM // 15:22

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Originally Posted by alestian

Okay, it just feels unnatural to not be able to jump. It's like being able to walk and not run. It just feels weird. I wonder why they didn't put it in the game? Strange.

As a programmer I can tell you that removing that single axis means they have to worry about a ton less coding. Putting together the physics for any MMORPG (or any game for that matter) is a time consuming issue. By removing the Z-Axis they have removed, Falling (and the damage associated with it) climbing (and the exploits that come with it) and also they don't actually have to repeatedly "report" your Z-axis to the servers to keep you from falling through the world, no vertical movement means they have reduced the burden that comes with that single axis.

Dravic Badmoon · Apr 28, 2005, 04:09 PM // 16:09

well put Roland, DAOC is another game that suffers from the Z-axis, as they appearently do not wish to fix the z-axis bugs that players report, insted they jsut suspend them for three days.

alestian · Apr 28, 2005, 04:24 PM // 16:24

I agree. Very well put. It makes sense that from the Developer's perspective, and in order to make the due date, to reduce the amount of gameplay controls would reasonably reduce the amount of code needed. And less code means less number of things to go wrong. From a user's perspective, however, I like the feeling of being able to go anywhere and do anything in a game. I suppose it really comes down to the purpose or goal of the game which is to simply make a profit so they can pay the developers, quality assurance team, support team, managers, designers, etc. who worked on the game. Reducing code means reducing strain on the development team and could even mean not requiring as many people on the team as it might otherwise so that leads to reduced headcount which leads to money saved for the company. Also, less code implemented means less for the QA team to test and certify. It also means less for the Support team to have to support. It also means less strain on the game servers. So, it all works in favor of the company. I just think that if they focused on what the end user wants then the jumping might be in there.

Apr 28, 2005, 02:09 PM // 14:09	#1
alestian Academy Page Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Texas Profession: W/Mo	How do you Jump? I have a really simple question. How do you make your character jump in Guild Wars? I found out how to walk, run, strafe, etc., but I can't find jump. That's all. Thanks!

Apr 28, 2005, 02:50 PM // 14:50	#5
alestian Academy Page Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Texas Profession: W/Mo	Ah okay I see. Okay, it just feels unnatural to not be able to jump. It's like being able to walk and not run. It just feels weird. I wonder why they didn't put it in the game? Strange.

Apr 28, 2005, 04:24 PM // 16:24	#8
alestian Academy Page Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Texas Profession: W/Mo	I agree. Very well put. It makes sense that from the Developer's perspective, and in order to make the due date, to reduce the amount of gameplay controls would reasonably reduce the amount of code needed. And less code means less number of things to go wrong. From a user's perspective, however, I like the feeling of being able to go anywhere and do anything in a game. I suppose it really comes down to the purpose or goal of the game which is to simply make a profit so they can pay the developers, quality assurance team, support team, managers, designers, etc. who worked on the game. Reducing code means reducing strain on the development team and could even mean not requiring as many people on the team as it might otherwise so that leads to reduced headcount which leads to money saved for the company. Also, less code implemented means less for the QA team to test and certify. It also means less for the Support team to have to support. It also means less strain on the game servers. So, it all works in favor of the company. I just think that if they focused on what the end user wants then the jumping might be in there. Last edited by alestian; Apr 28, 2005 at 04:28 PM // 16:28..

Apr 28, 2005, 02:19 PM // 14:19	#2
AcidRock Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Quebec Guild: Think Big Sti [PING]	There is no Jump button but there is actually an emote /jump but i dont think you can use it to really jump on something... i dont even know what it is supposed to emote at all...

Apr 28, 2005, 02:39 PM // 14:39	#4
Draken Krytan Explorer Join Date: Feb 2005 Guild: The Exiled	/jump its only an emote though

Apr 28, 2005, 04:09 PM // 16:09	#7
Dravic Badmoon Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Currently AFK at the moment... Guild: Badmoon's Militia Profession: Me/E	well put Roland, DAOC is another game that suffers from the Z-axis, as they appearently do not wish to fix the z-axis bugs that players report, insted they jsut suspend them for three days.